Comments on: Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/legal-battle-over-asian-carp-in-the-great-lakes-heats-up/ Reporting the Global Water Crisis Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:22:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Peter Maier http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/legal-battle-over-asian-carp-in-the-great-lakes-heats-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8143 Peter Maier Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:19:41 +0000 http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/?p=11037#comment-8143 Even tough we are witnessing dead zones and red tides all over the world, nobody should be surprised that when you stimulate algae growth and low dissolved oxygen levels in open waters, you first do get more carp. Due to an worldwide incorrect application of an essential water pollution test, developed around 1920 in England, most countries ignored the nitrogenous (urine and protein) waste in sewage, while this waste, besides exerting an oxygen demand, just like fecal waste, also, in all its forms, is a fertilizer for algae and thus contributes to the eutrophication of water bodies, first stimulating the growth of carp and often later in this process, resulting in dead zones. Even tough the US EPA in 1984 acknowledged the problems this caused, it never corrected the test and without correct test data, we still do not know how sewage is treated and what effluent waste loadings are on receiving water bodies. (www.petermaier.net) Still it seems impossible to correct this essential test and apply those existing sewage treatment technologies that also treat the nitrogenous waste. In a 1987 High Country News article, EPA of the record tells a water attorney that the test and regulations should be corrected, but that this is also impossible as it would require a re-education and re-tooling of an entire industry, which is happy with the status quo, as they can not be held accountable. Even less animus to make such correction as sewage treatment also would become less expensive, thus less profitable. Even tough we are witnessing dead zones and red tides all over the world, nobody should be surprised that when you stimulate algae growth and low dissolved oxygen levels in open waters, you first do get more carp.
Due to an worldwide incorrect application of an essential water pollution test, developed around 1920 in England, most countries ignored the nitrogenous (urine and protein) waste in sewage, while this waste, besides exerting an oxygen demand, just like fecal waste, also, in all its forms, is a fertilizer for algae and thus contributes to the eutrophication of water bodies, first stimulating the growth of carp and often later in this process, resulting in dead zones.
Even tough the US EPA in 1984 acknowledged the problems this caused, it never corrected the test and without correct test data, we still do not know how sewage is treated and what effluent waste loadings are on receiving water bodies. (www.petermaier.net)
Still it seems impossible to correct this essential test and apply those existing sewage treatment technologies that also treat the nitrogenous waste. In a 1987 High Country News article, EPA of the record tells a water attorney that the test and regulations should be corrected, but that this is also impossible as it would require a re-education and re-tooling of an entire industry, which is happy with the status quo, as they can not be held accountable. Even less animus to make such correction as sewage treatment also would become less expensive, thus less profitable.

]]> By: Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up - TeamstersOnline http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/legal-battle-over-asian-carp-in-the-great-lakes-heats-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8002 Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up - TeamstersOnline Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:00:50 +0000 http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/?p=11037#comment-8002 [...] Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up January 25, 2010 The White House responds to calls for a Great Lakes summit to protect the lakes and their $7 billion sportfishing industry from the invasive species. continued [...] [...] Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up Legal Battle Over Asian Carp in the Great Lakes Heats Up January 25, 2010 The White House responds to calls for a Great Lakes summit to protect the lakes and their $7 billion sportfishing industry from the invasive species. continued [...]

]]> By: Gary Olson http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/legal-battle-over-asian-carp-in-the-great-lakes-heats-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7991 Gary Olson Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:43:01 +0000 http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/?p=11037#comment-7991 Everyone keeps forgetting that not only will it harm the $7 billion fishing industry, it will do harm to the $16 billion recreational boating industry. 30% of the registered boats in the US are on the Great Lakes. Hundreds in the barge industry doesn't compare to the 244,000 people that have jobs due mainly to the rec boating industry. Everyone keeps forgetting that not only will it harm the $7 billion fishing industry, it will do harm to the $16 billion recreational boating industry. 30% of the registered boats in the US are on the Great Lakes.

Hundreds in the barge industry doesn’t compare to the 244,000 people that have jobs due mainly to the rec boating industry.

]]> By: Don Mitchel http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/2010/world/legal-battle-over-asian-carp-in-the-great-lakes-heats-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7990 Don Mitchel Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:49:14 +0000 http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/?p=11037#comment-7990 This Administration ran on a platform to go green, but they seem to have a policy of only worrying about water restoration, not prevention of problems such as ballast water. Other than the commander and chiefs purposed two decade plan, drawn up by the Coast Guard that mirrors an international organization of foreign sea captains, foreign countries, and foreign companies who have a terrible track record, we have nothing. To address the polluted water trail and carbon footprint of international shipping moving fossil fuels and consumer goods, the president would need to be bi-partisan. Addressing ballast water may help prevent eggs and baby Asian carp from spreading into the Great Lakes through the ballast tanks of barges. The president may not have had to address the problem of closing a canal. This would cause economic problems in his home state, which are minimal compared to the economic and permanent damage he is willing to risk for the rest of the country. Because network media dose not make an issue of this problem and will continue to pretend, by silence, regardless of what happens, that our president is not responsible, it is quite easy for this president to continue to only talk about preventing the dirty carbon emission in manufacturing as that can they can be associated with the partisan issue of oil. The change that we needed in 2008 to fix this problem, was started and passed (395-7) by the house of representatives and has since been ignored by the Senate and this administration, Americans that care about our water should make sure that this administrations inaction on preventing the continued destruction of our water as the economy begins to recover and grow through the continued and growing importation of foreign goods is forever remembered as a missed opportunity to protect our country because of short term economics. If terrorist use this venue to attack us we should never allow it to be said "who knew" as we did in 2001. Dose anyone think that the reason network TV dose not address these problems could be associated with the sponsors? cruise ships, Walmart, oil companies, Etc.? This Administration ran on a platform to go green, but they seem to have a policy of only worrying about water restoration, not prevention of problems such as ballast water. Other than the commander and chiefs purposed two decade plan, drawn up by the Coast Guard that mirrors an international organization of foreign sea captains, foreign countries, and foreign companies who have a terrible track record, we have nothing. To address the polluted water trail and carbon footprint of international shipping moving fossil fuels and consumer goods, the president would need to be bi-partisan. Addressing ballast water may help prevent eggs and baby Asian carp from spreading into the Great Lakes through the ballast tanks of barges. The president may not have had to address the problem of closing a canal. This would cause economic problems in his home state, which are minimal compared to the economic and permanent damage he is willing to risk for the rest of the country. Because network media dose not make an issue of this problem and will continue to pretend, by silence, regardless of what happens, that our president is not responsible, it is quite easy for this president to continue to only talk about preventing the dirty carbon emission in manufacturing as that can they can be associated with the partisan issue of oil. The change that we needed in 2008 to fix this problem, was started and passed (395-7) by the house of representatives and has since been ignored by the Senate and this administration, Americans that care about our water should make sure that this administrations inaction on preventing the continued destruction of our water as the economy begins to recover and grow through the continued and growing importation of foreign goods is forever remembered as a missed opportunity to protect our country because of short term economics. If terrorist use this venue to attack us we should never allow it to be said “who knew” as we did in 2001. Dose anyone think that the reason network TV dose not address these problems could be associated with the sponsors? cruise ships, Walmart, oil companies, Etc.?

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